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Thomas Fulery, Esq.
2006-03-27 13:46:03 UTC
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Severe weather's on the way

BY DANE STICKNEY AND JASON KUIPER

WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITERS

Severe weather is a common aspect of spring, according to meteorologists.

"Spring is never really normal; it falls into extremes," said Jon
Pacheco of AccuWeather, The World-Herald's weather consultant. "Spring
is a battleground. Winter is trying to hang on, but the days are getting
longer and the sun has other thoughts."

Kansas, Missouri and Illinois have already gotten off to a rocky start
with tornadoes this year.

To prepare Nebraskans and Iowans for the possibility of severe weather,
the National Weather Service, the Nebraska Emergency Management Agency
and county emergency management officials are urging Midlanders to take
note of Severe Weather Awareness Week, which runs today through Friday
in Nebraska. Iowa will mark the week April 3 through 7.

Weather agencies in Nebraska will begin issuing test tornado warnings at
10 a.m. Wednesday.

After the storm prediction center in Norman, Okla., issues a mock
tornado watch, weather officials will sound a test warning for Omaha and
surrounding areas from 10:10 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. Other places in
Nebraska, Kansas, Wyoming and South Dakota will issue mock warnings, as
well, until 11 a.m.

The National Weather Service forecast office in Valley will conduct
another tornado drill for the Omaha area at 6:45 p.m. Wednesday.

The evening test will be especially helpful for weather service workers,
said Brian Smith, a warning and coordination meteorologist at the
weather service's Valley office.

"Most of the tornadoes in Nebraska occur in the late afternoon or
evening," Smith said. "So it makes sense to have our staff that works
during that time take part in the drills."

Iowa's statewide tornado drill will be held April 5. The drill will
begin with a tornado watch at 10 a.m. followed by tornado warnings for
all 99 Iowa counties between 10:10 a.m. and 10:30 a.m.

Real tornado warnings could come soon. April, May and June are peak
months for tornadoes, Smith said, so now is the time to devise a safety
plan. In case of a severe storm or tornado, the weather service will
alert people through sirens and broadcast warnings. Residents should
head to a small, windowless room on the lowest floor.

That's mostly common sense, but planning is important, said Jim
Bunstock, spokesman for the Nebraska Emergency Management Agency.

"Storms can happen quickly," he said. "If people know where they're
supposed to go and what they're supposed to do, the chance of fatality
and injury are drastically reduced."

The driving force of severe weather is warm, moist air from the Gulf of
Mexico clashing with cold air from Canada.

During the next few weeks, there will be several chances for moisture
but no major storms, Pacheco said.

Temperatures and precipitation amounts should be near normal this
spring, said Bryon Miller, a meteorologist at the Valley office.

The National Weather Service Climate Prediction Center estimates that
temperatures will be below normal from the Pacific Northwest to the
northern Plains and above normal across the southern third to half of
the United States.

Precipitation is expected to be above normal from North Dakota to
Michigan and below normal from eastern Colorado into Kansas, Oklahoma,
Texas and Florida.
Jim Redelfs
2006-03-28 00:37:53 UTC
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Post by Thomas Fulery, Esq.
Severe weather's on the way
I saw that banner headline at the top of today's Midlands section.

My first thought: Well, DUUUUUUUH!!

Honest to pete: The main stream press really DOESN'T have a clue.

<sigh>
JR
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:)
JR
Thomas Fulery, Esq.
2006-03-28 15:59:29 UTC
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Post by Jim Redelfs
Post by Thomas Fulery, Esq.
Severe weather's on the way
I saw that banner headline at the top of today's Midlands section.
My first thought: Well, DUUUUUUUH!!
Honest to pete: The main stream press really DOESN'T have a clue.
Just wait till tomorrow. As the NWS noted on their web site, the test
warnings will use "live" code. That is, the fer-real TOA data feeds.
Unless "the radio and TV broadcasters in your area" have put their
systems in manual, the TOA will seize the station equipment and
automagically generate the warning tones and messages.

It's really the only way to check the system, but for some reason people
are often unwillingly to "take a chance."

Go figure.
Cletus Baker
2006-03-31 03:38:01 UTC
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Post by Thomas Fulery, Esq.
Unless "the radio and TV broadcasters in your area" have put their
systems in manual, the TOA will seize the station equipment and
automagically generate the warning tones and messages.
That was really helpful this afternoon as I was doing my level best to
ascertain from good ol' KFAB exactly what was transpiring in the world
above as I sat huddled with my employees in the basement far from
windows on the world. The live discussion of what the spotters and the
radar were revealing were obliterated time and time again by the WTX
attention signal, followed by half a minute of dead air. Then back to
the ongoing discussion for 10 or 15 seconds before being usurped by the
automaton again. Silliness. Back to CONELRAD, I say!
Thomas Fulery, Esq.
2006-03-31 13:37:42 UTC
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Post by Cletus Baker
That was really helpful this afternoon as I was doing my level best to
ascertain from good ol' KFAB exactly what was transpiring in the world
above as I sat huddled with my employees in the basement far from
windows on the world. The live discussion of what the spotters and the
radar were revealing were obliterated time and time again by the WTX
attention signal, followed by half a minute of dead air. Then back to
the ongoing discussion for 10 or 15 seconds before being usurped by the
automaton again. Silliness. Back to CONELRAD, I say!
Clete, you Olde Farte, do even YOU remember CONELRAD? 640/1240 on your
AM dial. An electromagnetic shell game, as it were. But with GPS and
inertial nav and all the technoglitter (see, e.g., Clancy's books),
CONELRAD has about as much relevance today as a turntable and plastic
discs have in an era of CDs and DVDs.

'-)


(If you can get it in your basement redoubt, the local TV
weather-guessers and affialiated newsreaders were actually doing a
pretty good job of keeping things sorted out. KFAB, as lead station for
the area's EBS, sorta has to "play the game," so to speak.)
Cletus Baker
2006-03-31 14:30:01 UTC
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Post by Thomas Fulery, Esq.
Clete, you Olde Farte, do even YOU remember CONELRAD? 640/1240 on your
AM dial. An electromagnetic shell game, as it were. But with GPS and
inertial nav and all the technoglitter (see, e.g., Clancy's books),
CONELRAD has about as much relevance today as a turntable and plastic
discs have in an era of CDs and DVDs.
Yeah, but at least LIVE PEOPLE were involved with it! ;-) Actually,
I neglected the obligatory smiley at the end. And just whaddaya mean to
imply about turntables and plastic disks??? ;-)
Post by Thomas Fulery, Esq.
(If you can get it in your basement redoubt, the local TV
weather-guessers and affialiated newsreaders were actually doing a
pretty good job of keeping things sorted out. KFAB, as lead station for
the area's EBS, sorta has to "play the game," so to speak.)
Seems to me that ONE alert notification is sufficient for a single
event. The object of the exercise is to spread the alert to all of the
subsidiary stations so that they're notified to pay attention to the
primary station. Everyone should have been in the loop by the time the
primary station began dispensing emergency information. It's
counterproductive to constantly interrupt the emergency information
itself with those stupid alert signals containing no information of
their own. That's the idiotic piece of the equation, whether it's
playing the game or otherwise.
Mike Riddle
2006-03-31 15:13:03 UTC
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Post by Cletus Baker
Seems to me that ONE alert notification is sufficient for a single
event. The object of the exercise is to spread the alert to all of the
subsidiary stations so that they're notified to pay attention to the
primary station. Everyone should have been in the loop by the time the
primary station began dispensing emergency information. It's
counterproductive to constantly interrupt the emergency information
itself with those stupid alert signals containing no information of
their own. That's the idiotic piece of the equation, whether it's
playing the game or otherwise.
That's the downside of county-by-county alerting. The upside is fewer
instances of "crying wolf" resulting in the warnings being ignored.

Back when consumer-quality weather alert radios first came out, you got
all the alerts for the entire Omaha/Valley service area or you got none.
Me, I preferred none. ;-)

Now I have S.A.M.E. radios set only for Sarpy County. So I got the
Tornado Watch, one Severe Thunderstorm Warning, the Tornado Warning.
Now if I had that radio set to sound off on all alerts, the echoes would
still be ringing around the building.

As it happened, I'm not far as the crow (or tornado) flies from where
this F0 started. I was watching horizontal rain, the radio went off,
the sirens went off, and I headed for the basement as the side door to
the garage blew open. I wouldn't have been paying nearly as much
attention if a non-selective radio had been alarming all afternoon.

Maybe your generous employer <g> needs to spring for a S.A.M.E. weather
radio and set it only for Douglas County, Nebraska. Then plan on
something besides KFAB to get your, ah, "blow by blow" descriptions of
the storm?
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Cletus Baker
2006-03-31 15:54:02 UTC
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Post by Mike Riddle
Maybe your generous employer <g> needs to spring for a S.A.M.E. weather
radio and set it only for Douglas County, Nebraska. Then plan on
something besides KFAB to get your, ah, "blow by blow" descriptions of
the storm?
First I've heard of the technology. What's S.A.M.E. stand for? And
how dear are they?
Mike Riddle
2006-03-31 16:26:02 UTC
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Post by Cletus Baker
Post by Mike Riddle
Maybe your generous employer <g> needs to spring for a S.A.M.E. weather
radio and set it only for Douglas County, Nebraska. Then plan on
something besides KFAB to get your, ah, "blow by blow" descriptions of
the storm?
First I've heard of the technology. What's S.A.M.E. stand for? And
how dear are they?
Selective Area Message Encoding. The Radioshack radios are in the 60
+/- range IIRC. There are other vendors out there--Midland and First
Alert come to mind. http://www.weather.gov/nwr/ is general information
and http://www.weather.gov/nwr/nwrsame.htm goes into detail on how it
works. http://www.weather.gov/nwr/nwrrcvr.htm gives information on
obtaining receivers.

Yesterday, sitting here in Sarpy County, I got one watch and two
warnings. Judging from the crawl bar on the TV, there were
substantially more than that issued up and down and on both sides of the
river.
Jim Redelfs
2006-03-31 16:55:03 UTC
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In article <***@ivgate.omahug.org>,
Mike Riddle <***@ivgate.omahug.org> wrote:

Risking a Pat Paulsen retort...
Post by Mike Riddle
Selective Area Message Encoding.
Specific Area Message Encoding (S.A.M.E.)

I bought an earlier version of the radio referenced in the following link. It
is always on at home and we take it camping. It works GREAT! I have
hard-copy of the county codes and station frequency for every state we have
visited.

http://www.weatherconnection.com/mfgproduct.asp?mfgname=Oregon+Scientific&itmky
=91031&mfgno=1

Now we need to get the word out to public and private campground operators to
prominently display/list their COUNTY for visitors using the technology.

Trying to find the correct spelling of "Pottawattamie" for the first time was
a challenge!
--
:)
JR
Mike Riddle
2006-03-31 18:27:50 UTC
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Post by Jim Redelfs
Risking a Pat Paulsen retort...
Picky, picky, picky!
Post by Jim Redelfs
I bought an earlier version of the radio referenced in the following link. It
is always on at home and we take it camping. It works GREAT! I have
hard-copy of the county codes and station frequency for every state we have
visited.
Now we need to get the word out to public and private campground operators to
prominently display/list their COUNTY for visitors using the technology.
Trying to find the correct spelling of "Pottawattamie" for the first time was
a challenge!
Why bother? To hear your tales of woe and gas mileage, one would think
that cast iron RV of yours is far, far, too heavy to ever blow away in a
Midwestern storm!

--

"Why is an Arkansas divorce like a tornado?"

No matter what happens, someone's gonna lose a trailer.
Cletus Baker
2006-04-01 04:42:03 UTC
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Post by Jim Redelfs
Trying to find the correct spelling of "Pottawattamie" for the first time was
a challenge!
There's a county by that name in each of about 14 states, and not a
one of 'em is spelt the same as another!
Mike Riddle
2006-04-06 16:32:04 UTC
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Post by Cletus Baker
First I've heard of the technology. What's S.A.M.E. stand for? And
how dear are they?
Today's Channel 7 morning news mentioned a special deal at Hy-Vee in
cooperation with Midland and Channel 7. The Midland WR100 S.A.M.E.
"Public Alert" certified weather radio for $29.xx. The Midland page on
the radio lists it at $49.95 plus the normal shipping, handling, and
state extortions.

http://www.midlandradio.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3105

WeatherBabe Andrea said they have at least one at the station and use it
all the time in their weather business.
Cletus Baker
2006-04-07 04:07:03 UTC
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Post by Mike Riddle
Today's Channel 7 morning news mentioned a special deal at Hy-Vee in
cooperation with Midland and Channel 7. The Midland WR100 S.A.M.E.
"Public Alert" certified weather radio for $29.xx.
Thanks for passing that along, Mike. I'll check into it. Wouldn't be
a bad investment for 50 bux, but for 30 it'd be silly not to get one.
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